calling it obama care, socialism and everything else, government takeover, where are the conservatives? all of a sudden they are quiet. >> they may be squawking more in the days to come. susan said ryan was a bad pick, but for a bunch of reasons. one of them is that he wasn't chosen to stand for anything. when i was wrong, i was like we're going to have a real debate about two different directions for the country. paul ryan's budget, he believes these things. president obama believes different things. mitt romney is putting meat on the bones and we're going to have a real debate. >> i thought the same thing by the way. >> whether you liked it or not, it seemed like a strategy. but then to pick paul ryan and muzzle him, i thought ryan was more damaging to the ticket than romney was on the sunday shows because if you don't let him talk about what he believes, he was like sarah palin. gasping for air. he didn't have an answer if he's told to not to talk about what he believes. >> people expect him to be bland and talk about the numbers and the facts and here's what you need to know. >> ho